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Several I'd say helps recruiting, tradition, mentality, etc. Guess you really didn't want to answer that question since the answer was zero did you?

As crappy as UT has been, their opponent has beaten a pretty good team in Auburn. Duke has actually played pretty well this year, outside of Connecticut. 11 point loss to VA, 6 point win over Northwestern, 3 point loss to Navy, 10 point loss to Miami, 5 point loss to Wake.

I don't quite get the whipping them out and measuring them this year, neither is very good.

it mustve helped a whole lot when they won all of 5 games in 2005

i think vt has done just fine in recruiting

id rather win 10-11 games with 3 star kids than win 5 with hella 5 stars

I'd rather win National Titles but thats just me.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How many National Titles does VT have, combined all sports not just football? </div></div>

Are you obsessed with VT.....how come you always compare them with other teams. No VT hasn't won a national championship in football (their football program didn't get big until the Michael Vick era). I also notice you you always try to bring down the Burton Raiders.......just because your teams aren't doing great you have to try to find fault in others. VT won't win the national championship this year, they might never win one...all I know is their football program has come a long way in the last 10 years or so.

He is just laying out the facts...and here's another one...It is a fact that it is foolish to even try to compare ACC football with SEC football...it isn't even in the same stratosphere...For example, there are no less than 7 SEC teams that could outright win the ACC this year...and 5 of em would have a relatively easy time doing so..

Your'e about as stupid as your buddy! I will agree that the sec is stronger (WHOOPIE!!) LSU and FLA would win with ease but that's all. I predict that in 2-3 years the ACC will be stronger. When Florida St and Miami get back to where they usually are, the conference will rival the sec and pac 10.

the ACC doesn't have a team that could finish 3rd or better in either of the SEC divisions. BC is a paper tiger...we all saw what LSU had for VT (the best of the ACC..lol)...Let's see..in the SEC West, LSU, Auburn Arkansas or Bama could wint he ACC...in the East, Fla, UT, Kentucky, and SC could win the ACC...and I don't see a ACC team that would finish ahead of any of em..and I didn't even mention UGA..lol..ACC my a$$

If you really want to determine the strength of a conference, there are a couple of ways to do it and not really skew the results. You need to look at the # of teams with a winning record and take that as a percentage. Then rank each conference according to who has the higher percentage of teams with winning records. Then take the entire conferences win/loss record and determine what percentage of their losses are conference and which are nonconference. Then rank each conference with the conference with the highest percentage of conference losses coming first. Then take each ranking and average it and it give you a clearer picture as to each conferences overall strength. I did this with the ACC, SEC, Big 10, Big East, Pac 10, and Big 12...and it is pretty accurate. Shakes out like this.

Overall % of teams with winning records:
1-SEC 92% (1 team with a losing overall record)
2-Big 12 75% (3 teams with losing or .500 records)
3-Big 10 70% (3 teams with losing or .500 records)
4-ACC 66% (4 teams with losing or .500 records)
5-Big East 58% (3 teams with losing or .500 records)
6-Pac 10 50% (5 teams with losing of .500 records)

Overall percentage of conference and nonconference losses:
1-SEC 82% of losses conference and 18% nonconference
2-Big 10 (tie) 75% of losses conference and 25% nonconference
Pac 10 (tie) 75% of losses conference and 25% nonconference
4-ACC 61% of losses conference and 39% nonconference
5-Big 12 50% of losses conference and 50% nonconference
6-Big East 36% of losses conference and 64% nonconference

Overall rank:

1-SEC (1 avg.)
2-Big 10 (2.5 avg)
3-Big 12 (3.5 avg)
4-ACC (tie) (4 avg)
Pac 10 (tie)(4 avg)
6-Big East (5.5 avg)

That works out to be a pretty accurate picture as to the overall strength of each conference.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: vthokie22</div><div class="ubbcode-body">meanwhile, the Vols lose, go to .500, call for Fulmer's head and drop further and further away from the top 25

i think i like where we are better </div></div>
......AND STILL HAVE 6 MORE NATIONAL TITLES THAN VA TECH